MTWD keeps up with the Times
Should He Be In
By Ged Ladd feat. Patrick Kidd
December 6 2008
Ged Ladd doesn't often find himself published in The Times, but today he finds himself in Line and Length's feature on Top Ten Ashes Heroes. And what a top ten he provides. Read about Andrew Stoddart, Plum Warner, Patsy Hendren, Gubby Allen, Dennis Compton, Jeff Thomson, Mike Brearley, Mike Gatting, John Embury and Glenn McGrath, But did Ged get it right? Discuss.
Ged Ladd doesn't often find himself with a feature in the Times. But today he has a piece in Line and Length.
The expectation of the Champions League this week sparked an idea that led to another idea and Patrick Kidd picked it up and ran with it. Despite the postponement of the Champions League.
So here it is - as part of the running feature of "Top Ten Ashes Heroes", Ged proposes a Middlesex Top Ten.
Click here to read the feature:
Middlesex Top Ten Ashes Heroes
And what a top ten it is. Andrew Stoddart, Plum Warner, Patsy Hendren, Gubby Allen, Dennis Compton, Jeff Thomson, Mike Brearley, Mike Gatting, John Embury and Glenn McGrath. Ged even managed to sleaze in John Murray to make up a pretty formidable team.
But what heartbreak it was to leave certain favourite players out.
Straussy left out by a whisker. No room for Bill Edrich. Tuffers misses out. So does Phil Edmonds. Even Fred Titmus missed the cut, just.
So what do you think? Has Ged got it right or has he got it wrong?
Please debate the matter on this very thread.
And if the contributions on these thread are deemed worthy, who knows? Perhaps the Times will be tempted to publish a second batch of Middlesex heroes. Middlesex's second ten would be as good or even better than some counties top ten, I'd say.
Many thanks to Patrick Kidd and also thanks to Seaxe Man whose features on Middlesex captains (linked through on the Line and Length piece) inspired several of my choices.
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StumbleuponInstinctively, I'm working on other names not mentioned and can think of 2 other recent heroes worthy of 2nd X1 and one some might say make first X1. Then again, what do I know?
Barmy Kev
I'm only here for the tele
No Fred??
Embers instead!!
I plugged for Embers in the end because he consistently excelled himself in his Ashes appearances, whereas Fred's Ashes efforts were not his highest point. It was an article on Ashes Heroes after all.
Similarly Bill Edrich did not have an exceptional Ashes record, despite his superb showing in first class and other test appearances.
No right or wrong in this and well worth debate.
By all means put an alternative case for Fred ahead of Embers, Dingy Bags.
Cor.....who to leave out out or who doesn't even make the Middx Ashes Second team, once you start thinking of who else you could consider in addition to your nominees, - Nobby Cowans, Edmonds, Downton,..didn't the Aussie fast bowler Alan Connelly play a season for us ?.......John Price.....
I was told that Gubby Allen wouldn't bowl bodyline, and told Jardine that he wouldn't, so to still pick up the odd one or two really was doing it then. Wasn't it a 6 Test tour that time?
Edmonds did appear under Brearley's captaincy in Ashes encounters, of course. Didn't Phil make his fifer on taboo in an Ashes encounter under Brears?
Jack Hearne (also a useful bowler)
Andrew Strauss
Justin Langer
Bill Edrich
Peter Parfitt
Paul Downton (WK)
Fred Titmus
Phil Edmonds
Gus Fraser
Alan Connelly
Albert Trott ( who played both for Engalnd And Oz)
- It shows you how some things live on - there's still a graffitto on a wall in Whitechapel claiming that our George was framed to this day!
Isn't he due for parole soon? George, not PHE; that is.
Surely some other names spring to mind folks. then we can juggle three teams perhaps!
Neither Larwood nor Jardine ever played for Middlesex, as far as I know.
As for Gubby Allen being a traitor, if you mean that he refused to bowl a bodyline, I suspect that 21 wickets at a reasonable rate in a winning cause during that series suggests that he might just have known what he was doing.
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